Mr. Sullivan, my 12th grade English teacher, made us dress up in Burger King crowns and sword fight with paper towel tubes to make sense of Shakespeare's Hamlet. Here at the American School in Guadalajara we are going to use the internet instead. In the posts below, follow us as we seek to understand why this really is the greatest play in the English language.
Sunday, April 19, 2009
Act V, 2
The ending of Hamlet is very famous for it’s quantity of bloodshed.In all of this mess, is justice served?
No, not really. Not much justice is served. In my opinion, Claudius is all to blame and he dies but there isn't much justice other than that. It's simply a bunch of dead bodies in a short period of time that makes it astonishing.
The ending of Hamlet is very famous for the its quantity of bloodshed. In all this mess, JUSTICE WAS SERVED. Hamlet finally killed Claudius and took revenge for his father. Claudius wanted to kill Hamlet with the poisoned wine, instead Gertrude ended up drinking it and she died in 30 minutes. Laertes killed Hamlet and there was justice, because Hamlet had killed Polonious, his father. Fortinbras also had his justice, he took Denmark's palace and avenged his dead father. In other words, there was justice for everyone.
I believe that in this scene tehre qwas certainly justice served, i believe that almost everyone who ever attempted a bad tought against someone else got what they deserved and therefore it sdeems to be a fair scene. It maybe only got out a little bit of hands by also killing the main and innocent character hamlet who had nothing to pay for, for he was the only one who really suffere dhtroughout the story and it was him who got to die as well. It was a great mobie and play, thanks mister :)
I think that in the last scene of Hamlet, justice was made. All of the people who did badly died, with their own plans for other, they came like rats to their own tramp. Then Hamlet died, but because he had to die because it was tragedy. The queen died to pay her justice and all of the other deserved to die in that scene. Lourde Loera
There is justice, in my opinion, that there was justice. Event though the Jsustice that has been taken is not fair enough for some whom deserved more of a punishment. An old "euthpia" for someone has to end and a new shall rise and continue the journey Francisco Sanchez
I think that justice is served, because Claudius dies, but its also served unjust, because many of the people that died, did not deserve to die, like Hamlet, Laertes, Gertrude, Osric and many other soldiers. It was shocking to see so many people die, but i think its a good unexpected ending for such a great play.
My view about justice is that it can never be served, not in this play, not in any play, not in any real life ocasion when it is murder that we are talking about. The king coming back to life and killing Claudius in the same exact way that he was killed by his brother just to serve himself that purpose is justice, but that isn't possible. Justice can only be served when the exact same thing is done to the aggressor in return from the aggressed and by this idea of mine, when talking about murder, justice is impossible. There was no justice served in this play and I didn't expect there to be any since it is impossible. In life we as humans constantly do mere attempts of justice but there is never complete or fulfilled. We should also ask ourselves what the word justice means to us, I won't get into what it means for me.
I believe Justice was served to those who needed it but others did not. Claudius had his justice because he deserved to die, and even a lot more painfull as he saw his wife Gertrude die by his own trickery.(Gertrude also had her justice by death) But innocents died as well, Laertes, Hamlet and Osric who did not deserve it. But o well its a tragedy what can we do.
i believe that justice was definetly served or even exagerateed i mean by this that many died eventhough they didnt even deserve it (innocent) . Hamlet finally killed Claudius (as he had planed), Gertrude died with justice because she was also responsible for all the mess, but obviously it is a play so its fair, but in real life i wouldnt call it justice
of course jutice is served because the king that killed his own brother died, The queen that slept with the brother of his husband, Hamlets brother died in his own plan. So as we can see, justice was made for all, well except Hamlet, eventhou i think he did happily because he got revenge.
I really belive Justice is serve in some of the scenes of Hamlet. Like killing Claudius or Gertrude for sleeping with someone else when she said she was never going to betrayed her husband. But i belived that Hamlet didnt needed to die since they took everything from him and he just whanted revenge for everything that he had suffer.
For the most part, justice was served. I believe almost everyone got what they deserved. First, Claudius had to die because he killed the king, and does die. Gertrude had to die because she cheated on the king, and so she died. Laertes had to die because he wanted to kill Hamlet, which is not very nice, so dead he goes. Polonius had to die because he spied on his son, on Hamlet, and was complotting against Hamlet. Hamlet had to die because he went of killing several people, like Rosencratz and Guildernstern, who were not so, so evil. The only person, who was truly a victim, was Ophelia. Poor Ophelia, she was just trying to be a good daughter, and look where lead.
i think justice did exist because even though hamlet ended up dead, he still got the chance to kill claudius and in the end hamlet was guilty of killing the king so he deserved to die as well, so everybody had their own justice in a sort of way Carlos Perez
I think that jutice really took part on the last scene of Hamlet. Its true that many people died in the most unexpected way, but I think that all of this happened for a reason. Hamlets mom, Gertrude, dies first. Maybe because she's the person who caused less harm or, we can say that she was the one who caused all harm. She married Claudius, Hamlet's uncle, right after her husbands death, she was standing beside the evil character all the time and supported him, leaving her "crazy" son. Ophelia's brother, Laertes, died next. His evil plan (poisoning the sword) didnt turn like he expected and he fell in it. He tried to kill the responsible for his sister and father's death, Hamlet. Another character who died in this scene was Laertes accomplice, (can remember his name). He was the one who helped Laertes poisoned the sword for Hamlet's death. This person, although he didnt had much to do with the problem, died. Claudius was killed. Hamlet finally got his revenge after all what Claudius did. He poisonned his brother and tried to kill Hamlet the same way, instead, his wife, Gertrude, drink the cup. Last but not leaste, Hamlet. He died because of a small sword cut, which had venom. He killed Ophelia's father, Laertes, he was held responsible for Ophelia's death and killed Claudius. All of these people caused some kind of harm during the story. We can say that Karma took over the last scene. Everyone got what they deserved.
Justice was served, but it wasnt. Since the beggining of the story everyone had their own carefully thought, and calculated plan, to step on whomever they needed to step on. Claudius, on his brother, Gertrude on her husband, and Hamlet.. well Hamlet wanted to step on the entire kingdom. However, based on how the story ended, and by that i mean, everybody lying on the floor, lifeless. Justice is served if we ought to view it from Hamlet´s persective, Claudius dies indeed, although Hamlet does as well. I wonder... Did Hamlet saw his dead coming? Was he fearfull about it? or was his dead justified, because of all the trouble he caused? Eye for an eye, right?
Those are the answers i need to assure whether justice is the right word for how the play conclueded. Maybe if we asked whether everyone got what they deserved, my anwser would be yes. Or are those things the same?.....
Of course that justice was made. Their is no doubt that although justice was not served in the way we normally expect, it certaintly did. I mean this because Hamlet in the end did avenged his fathers death by killing the king in his throne. Laertes also received his revenge and justice in the end when Hamlet, his fathers murderer, died because of the poison he inserted in Hamlet's body. Gertrude's death was another act of justice served because she caused all of this problems, she was the one of the source´s of Hamlet´s drama. Finally Hamlet´s death served justice because he killed Ophelia´s father, and he caused Ophelia´s madness that eventually led to her death.
Well, it depends on what you would consider "justice". Justice is when the wrong doers have been punished for their crimes and the innocent are rewarded for their loss. But the way I see it, the judge (Hamlet), the jury (every other character except Horation) and the defendant (the King) have all been massacred in a vicious cycle of delivering justice and eliminating the problematic! It's like a love-triangle of murder: the defendant kills the jury, the jury kills the judge, and the judge kills the defendant!
Now for the short n'sweet version of my statement:
Sure, justice has been "served", but who's left to acknowledge it?. Horatio may live, but he is only but a bystander of the royal family's demise. Anyone else that was involved in this cycle cannot make a claim that he "won", because they're all DEAD!
No, not really. Not much justice is served. In my opinion, Claudius is all to blame and he dies but there isn't much justice other than that. It's simply a bunch of dead bodies in a short period of time that makes it astonishing.
ReplyDeleteDaniel Oon
The ending of Hamlet is very famous for the its quantity of bloodshed. In all this mess, JUSTICE WAS SERVED. Hamlet finally killed Claudius and took revenge for his father. Claudius wanted to kill Hamlet with the poisoned wine, instead Gertrude ended up drinking it and she died in 30 minutes. Laertes killed Hamlet and there was justice, because Hamlet had killed Polonious, his father. Fortinbras also had his justice, he took Denmark's palace and avenged his dead father. In other words, there was justice for everyone.
ReplyDeleteAbraham Showaki O.
I believe that in this scene tehre qwas certainly justice served, i believe that almost everyone who ever attempted a bad tought against someone else got what they deserved and therefore it sdeems to be a fair scene. It maybe only got out a little bit of hands by also killing the main and innocent character hamlet who had nothing to pay for, for he was the only one who really suffere dhtroughout the story and it was him who got to die as well. It was a great mobie and play, thanks mister :)
ReplyDeletegreat novie and play thanks mister :) hahah its adrian llamas by the way, the one up here::
ReplyDeleteI think that in the last scene of Hamlet, justice was made. All of the people who did badly died, with their own plans for other, they came like rats to their own tramp. Then Hamlet died, but because he had to die because it was tragedy. The queen died to pay her justice and all of the other deserved to die in that scene.
ReplyDeleteLourde Loera
There is justice, in my opinion, that there was justice. Event though the Jsustice that has been taken is not fair enough for some whom deserved more of a punishment. An old "euthpia" for someone has to end and a new shall rise and continue the journey
ReplyDeleteFrancisco Sanchez
I think that justice is served, because Claudius dies, but its also served unjust, because many of the people that died, did not deserve to die, like Hamlet, Laertes, Gertrude, Osric and many other soldiers. It was shocking to see so many people die, but i think its a good unexpected ending for such a great play.
ReplyDeleteNicolas Chemello
My view about justice is that it can never be served, not in this play, not in any play, not in any real life ocasion when it is murder that we are talking about. The king coming back to life and killing Claudius in the same exact way that he was killed by his brother just to serve himself that purpose is justice, but that isn't possible. Justice can only be served when the exact same thing is done to the aggressor in return from the aggressed and by this idea of mine, when talking about murder, justice is impossible. There was no justice served in this play and I didn't expect there to be any since it is impossible. In life we as humans constantly do mere attempts of justice but there is never complete or fulfilled. We should also ask ourselves what the word justice means to us, I won't get into what it means for me.
ReplyDeleteJ.P. Vallejo
I believe Justice was served to those who needed it but others did not. Claudius had his justice because he deserved to die, and even a lot more painfull as he saw his wife Gertrude die by his own trickery.(Gertrude also had her justice by death) But innocents died as well, Laertes, Hamlet and Osric who did not deserve it. But o well its a tragedy what can we do.
ReplyDeleteOscar Bougart
i believe that justice was definetly served or even exagerateed i mean by this that many died eventhough they didnt even deserve it (innocent) .
ReplyDeleteHamlet finally killed Claudius (as he had planed), Gertrude died with justice because she was also responsible for all the mess, but obviously it is a play so its fair, but in real life i wouldnt call it justice
cristina sandoval
of course jutice is served because the king that killed his own brother died, The queen that slept with the brother of his husband, Hamlets brother died in his own plan. So as we can see, justice was made for all, well except Hamlet, eventhou i think he did happily because he got revenge.
ReplyDeleteIvan Figueroa
I really belive Justice is serve in some of the scenes of Hamlet. Like killing Claudius or Gertrude for sleeping with someone else when she said she was never going to betrayed her husband. But i belived that Hamlet didnt needed to die since they took everything from him and he just whanted revenge for everything that he had suffer.
ReplyDeleteDiego Leon
For the most part, justice was served. I believe almost everyone got what they deserved. First, Claudius had to die because he killed the king, and does die. Gertrude had to die because she cheated on the king, and so she died. Laertes had to die because he wanted to kill Hamlet, which is not very nice, so dead he goes. Polonius had to die because he spied on his son, on Hamlet, and was complotting against Hamlet. Hamlet had to die because he went of killing several people, like Rosencratz and Guildernstern, who were not so, so evil. The only person, who was truly a victim, was Ophelia. Poor Ophelia, she was just trying to be a good daughter, and look where lead.
ReplyDeletei think justice did exist because even though hamlet ended up dead, he still got the chance to kill claudius and in the end hamlet was guilty of killing the king so he deserved to die as well, so everybody had their own justice in a sort of way
ReplyDeleteCarlos Perez
I think that jutice really took part on the last scene of Hamlet. Its true that many people died in the most unexpected way, but I think that all of this happened for a reason.
ReplyDeleteHamlets mom, Gertrude, dies first. Maybe because she's the person who caused less harm or, we can say that she was the one who caused all harm. She married Claudius, Hamlet's uncle, right after her husbands death, she was standing beside the evil character all the time and supported him, leaving her "crazy" son.
Ophelia's brother, Laertes, died next. His evil plan (poisoning the sword) didnt turn like he expected and he fell in it. He tried to kill the responsible for his sister and father's death, Hamlet.
Another character who died in this scene was Laertes accomplice, (can remember his name). He was the one who helped Laertes poisoned the sword for Hamlet's death. This person, although he didnt had much to do with the problem, died.
Claudius was killed. Hamlet finally got his revenge after all what Claudius did. He poisonned his brother and tried to kill Hamlet the same way, instead, his wife, Gertrude, drink the cup.
Last but not leaste, Hamlet. He died because of a small sword cut, which had venom. He killed Ophelia's father, Laertes, he was held responsible for Ophelia's death and killed Claudius.
All of these people caused some kind of harm during the story. We can say that Karma took over the last scene. Everyone got what they deserved.
Tamara Leon
Justice was served, but it wasnt. Since the beggining of the story everyone had their own carefully thought, and calculated plan, to step on whomever they needed to step on. Claudius, on his brother, Gertrude on her husband, and Hamlet.. well Hamlet wanted to step on the entire kingdom. However, based on how the story ended, and by that i mean, everybody lying on the floor, lifeless. Justice is served if we ought to view it from Hamlet´s persective, Claudius dies indeed, although Hamlet does as well. I wonder... Did Hamlet saw his dead coming? Was he fearfull about it? or was his dead justified, because of all the trouble he caused? Eye for an eye, right?
ReplyDeleteThose are the answers i need to assure whether justice is the right word for how the play conclueded. Maybe if we asked whether everyone got what they deserved, my anwser would be yes. Or are those things the same?.....
Alejandra Ramirez
Of course that justice was made. Their is no doubt that although justice was not served in the way we normally expect, it certaintly did. I mean this because Hamlet in the end did avenged his fathers death by killing the king in his throne. Laertes also received his revenge and justice in the end when Hamlet, his fathers murderer, died because of the poison he inserted in Hamlet's body. Gertrude's death was another act of justice served because she caused all of this problems, she was the one of the source´s of Hamlet´s drama. Finally Hamlet´s death served justice because he killed Ophelia´s father, and he caused Ophelia´s madness that eventually led to her death.
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ReplyDelete-Mr. Paul
Well, it depends on what you would consider "justice". Justice is when the wrong doers have been punished for their crimes and the innocent are rewarded for their loss. But the way I see it, the judge (Hamlet), the jury (every other character except Horation) and the defendant (the King) have all been massacred in a vicious cycle of delivering justice and eliminating the problematic! It's like a love-triangle of murder: the defendant kills the jury, the jury kills the judge, and the judge kills the defendant!
ReplyDeleteNow for the short n'sweet version of my statement:
Sure, justice has been "served", but who's left to acknowledge it?. Horatio may live, but he is only but a bystander of the royal family's demise. Anyone else that was involved in this cycle cannot make a claim that he "won", because they're all DEAD!
-Jerry Leon Cruz
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