Mr. Sullivan, my 12th grade English teacher, made us dress up in Burger King crowns and sword fight with paper towel tubes to make sense of Shakespeare's Hamlet. Here at the American School in Guadalajara we are going to use the internet instead. In the posts below, follow us as we seek to understand why this really is the greatest play in the English language.
Sunday, April 19, 2009
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Have you ever had a good friend change dramatically? What was it like?Could you remain friends with them?
So, do you think Ophelia can maintain her relationship with Hamlet? Why or why not?
Change dramatically? I don't think so but I have a friend that I did not see for a long time. After the long time, it was hard to talk with him. I did not know what to say or how to behave around him. It was an awkward feeling. Since we were close friends, we kept hanging out together and eventually became close friends once again. I think Ophelia and maintain her relationship with Hamlet. Apparently, both love each other and Hamlet is still sane. Besides, Polonius now thinks that Hamlet is truly in love with Ophelia and might allow Ophelia to be with Hamlet.
Yes i have had friends that just recently gave an instant and dramatic hange. They got a new girlfriend or a new car and their personality was totally different because they now felt that they were superior and more supreme and therefore they had a much different attitute. Yes i was able to remain friends with them for there is no way a car or a girl can stop the relaqtionship, i mean it does kind of make it a bit harder but if there was once a friendship which in so meny cases there is, we still remain as good friends, but we just simply hang out less or do not do the same things we used to do. I dont think ophelia has a chance because hamlet seems to be really determined in not changing her mind to be left alone to think more about the issue and ophelia wills truggle communicating with his old lover in order to still be in the same channel. besides trying to handle with him while he is behaving in such a strange manner, it seems to be unbearabl, i mean you cant even tolerate him, how can you keep the old roamntic relationship that they two had?
lets ask when a friend hasn't change. Each freind doesn't matter how close he could be in a friendship or of knowning each other every perosn will change their way of being. Depending on where they stay and where they are hanging out the person u used to be will change by good or bad. what someone should judge their friend is just by how they are and have in mind that they'll change and they should be comprehended bay old "buds". A friend of mine on kinder, we were best friends we did almost everything supporting each other. then i met him again and changed a lot by the personality. Also my personality changed when i met him. I'll keep the friend ship if he wishes to because he now days hangs with others. Ohpelia can mantain the relationship if she purpose to but the question should be if ophelia knows why Hamlet is acting in such manner. Opheloa also if she wants to keep the relationship and lets say that she knows why Hamlet is like that will she support him and keep acting frightened by him.
I've never had a friend change dramatically although I have had friends change little. It started when he went to another school after 9th grade, the ambiance in his new school was different and the people were different and he adapted to them so he became more like them and less like he used to be. He used to be my best friend and he will remain that way but the relationship is not the same. We still see each other frequently but it is hard for us to maintain that connection there used to be. If Ophelia really tries to maintain her relationship with Hamlet I think she can because with determination and enough desire to do something, we can accomplish anything we set our minds to. I must say though, that with Hamlet's acting like a crazy person it is going to be really hard.
I’ve had many friends who have changed dramatically. Some have changed for good, others not so much. Having your friends change is like gambling, you could win a lot, or you could lose everything. Some it is us who make our friends change; it is us who willingly gambled. Of course it is possible to remain friends with them; we might even like them better. Some people like turn towards hypocrisy if they do not like their friends better. At first, judging y how freaked out was Ophelia; I would say that the relationship is over. Then we saw her reaction to Hamlet’s letter, which really meant a lot to her. You can tell that she really loves him, so judging by the grandeur of this love, I’d say that as long as Hamlet does nothing of gigantic stupidity directly to Ophelia, the relationship will go on.
Friend’s come and go for diverse maters; but the real friends are always maintained close, no matter what. People do change depending on the circumstances of their lives, some come to consciousness and become better persons, while others leave behind their values and believe their superior. I have personally had a friend change dramatically, her life made a sudden twist. Her parent divorced and that really affected her, she could not tolerate seeing her parents fight all the time. At first it was hard, she was always depressed and nothing could be done. But as time passed she learned how to deal with it and started to value more her surroundings including me. Unfortunately Hamlet changed in another way; he is now acting like a total lunatic. Ofelia is going to need great patience to maintain her relationship. If she sets her mind and supports Hamlet on this devastating time , they can succeed and when all of this passes they would still be together. Lourdes Loera
I did had a friend that changed dramatically due because she went to study outside the country and returned being someone else. She was once a very funny and understanding person when we where friends, but when she returned she returned more serious and according to her more like a woman when she clearly was not. She now became a total stranger and since then our friendship ended within a few months. In Hamlets case, I do think that there is a chance that they could return. The reason is because they are not simple friends, but they are more like lovers, and if they really wanted each other, then there should be a chance of keeping their relationship intact.
I do have a friend that changed dramatically. He used to hang out with us a lot, he was a close friend. But slowly, he started getting into this computer game, WOW that dramatically changed him. He would not go out on weekends to play the game. He played it all day, all week. Then he started going to Colima every weekend to play it there so we would not bother him. He even stopped talking to us through msn. He practically disappeared for a couple months. The he randomly appeared one day to hang out with us. It was pretty awkward but he is starting to hang out with us again. I don’t think we will remain friends, because I think he will keep on playing the game. Regarding Ophelia and Hamlet, I think it will be hard for them to keep their relationship due to the circumstances. But I think they will manage if Ophelia can support being in the situations that Hamlet puts her through.
Ive Had a friend that changed dramatically during this year. At first, He was very athletic and he was doing great in school but then he meet the wrong people and he started to miss school and practices.He was doing so good in life. He was going streight to succes but now, i dont even know him anymore.I dont think ophelia can be with Hamlet due to his atitude. Right now Hamlet has alot on his mind and this will stop them from being together.
i think there is always a need for change. There is always a reason or a motive to destroy a static phase in your life. However, these changes are not always too pleasant. Yes, i have had many friends change dramatically. For whatever the reason might have been, for the most part, i was able to tolerate and adapt to the change. I also noticed that the amount of my acceptance to the change depended a lot on the other person´s attutide toward the actual change. For example, if a friend decided to adopt an arrogant, self-centered attitude because he or she got a new boyfriend or girlfriend, well... i just decided not to deal with it. So my main point is that change is necessary cannot always lead people towards improvement or good.
As for Ophelia, i really dont think she is going to be able to maintain a healthy, normal realtionship with Hamlet. Even if she does love him, and he really loves her. There´s just too much BS in between. Like for example, an annoying, selfish father like Polonious. And Hamlet´s thirst for revenge. So, I think Ophelia might get overwhelmed and tired by having to deal with so much drama in the royal palace.
I have had a friend that has changed through time, but dramatically? No, he just changed a little bit. He moved to Mexico City and we stopped seeing each other for six months. As time passed, he decided to come to Guadalajara. At first, it was awkward, since we were best friends and we didnt talk for the first 30 minutes. After a while we talked and returned back to normal. In Hamlets case, I dont think that he will mantain his relationship with Ophelia, because they arent just friends, they are lovers. If Ophelia supports Hamlets during this difficult times, maybe they can preserve their relationship. Abraham Showaki
I have had friends that changed in a drastic way. Some have changed for good and some changed in a complete opposite way. I can mantain a good, yet not close, realtionship with the people that have changed. I set limits when people change in a manner that I don`t really like, I prefer to mantain it as a good relationship, but not the way that we were before we both changed. I say both, because I can't say that I haven't changed in a drastic way, or else, I'll be lying. When I learn a lesson, when I lose a friend, when I experience something day by day, people change. In Ophelia's case, I don't think she is ready to mantain a relationship with Hamlet and see him as a good friend, because deep down in her, she still feels something for him. Seeing Hamlet have a sudden change in his personality probably hurt her. It is alright to have a relationship with any person as long as you are OK with it. From where I see this, I dont think that Ophelia is alright with herself in changing her feelings towards Hamlet (father's advice) and I dont think she is feeling pleased with the sudden change Hamlet has made.
i remember one friend i had that changed dramatically, i didnt realize when this happened because i was realizing that this individual was changing in every aspect, the way he talked, the way he treated people, and i really could not stand that. he then started getting along with people from other "areas" and starting talking behind our backs and inventing things that were not true. he also became a very big lier and i think i will not be friend of this guy again, maybe just a school friend, but not really close friend. Carlos Perez
Change dramatically? I don't think so but I have a friend that I did not see for a long time. After the long time, it was hard to talk with him. I did not know what to say or how to behave around him. It was an awkward feeling. Since we were close friends, we kept hanging out together and eventually became close friends once again. I think Ophelia and maintain her relationship with Hamlet. Apparently, both love each other and Hamlet is still sane. Besides, Polonius now thinks that Hamlet is truly in love with Ophelia and might allow Ophelia to be with Hamlet.
ReplyDeleteDaniel Oon
Yes i have had friends that just recently gave an instant and dramatic hange. They got a new girlfriend or a new car and their personality was totally different because they now felt that they were superior and more supreme and therefore they had a much different attitute. Yes i was able to remain friends with them for there is no way a car or a girl can stop the relaqtionship, i mean it does kind of make it a bit harder but if there was once a friendship which in so meny cases there is, we still remain as good friends, but we just simply hang out less or do not do the same things we used to do. I dont think ophelia has a chance because hamlet seems to be really determined in not changing her mind to be left alone to think more about the issue and ophelia wills truggle communicating with his old lover in order to still be in the same channel. besides trying to handle with him while he is behaving in such a strange manner, it seems to be unbearabl, i mean you cant even tolerate him, how can you keep the old roamntic relationship that they two had?
ReplyDeleteAdrian Llamas
lets ask when a friend hasn't change. Each freind doesn't matter how close he could be in a friendship or of knowning each other every perosn will change their way of being. Depending on where they stay and where they are hanging out the person u used to be will change by good or bad. what someone should judge their friend is just by how they are and have in mind that they'll change and they should be comprehended bay old "buds".
ReplyDeleteA friend of mine on kinder, we were best friends we did almost everything supporting each other. then i met him again and changed a lot by the personality. Also my personality changed when i met him.
I'll keep the friend ship if he wishes to because he now days hangs with others.
Ohpelia can mantain the relationship if she purpose to but the question should be if ophelia knows why Hamlet is acting in such manner. Opheloa also if she wants to keep the relationship and lets say that she knows why Hamlet is like that will she support him and keep acting frightened by him.
Francisco Sanchez
I've never had a friend change dramatically although I have had friends change little. It started when he went to another school after 9th grade, the ambiance in his new school was different and the people were different and he adapted to them so he became more like them and less like he used to be. He used to be my best friend and he will remain that way but the relationship is not the same. We still see each other frequently but it is hard for us to maintain that connection there used to be. If Ophelia really tries to maintain her relationship with Hamlet I think she can because with determination and enough desire to do something, we can accomplish anything we set our minds to. I must say though, that with Hamlet's acting like a crazy person it is going to be really hard.
ReplyDeleteJ.P. Vallejo
I’ve had many friends who have changed dramatically. Some have changed for good, others not so much. Having your friends change is like gambling, you could win a lot, or you could lose everything. Some it is us who make our friends change; it is us who willingly gambled. Of course it is possible to remain friends with them; we might even like them better. Some people like turn towards hypocrisy if they do not like their friends better.
ReplyDeleteAt first, judging y how freaked out was Ophelia; I would say that the relationship is over. Then we saw her reaction to Hamlet’s letter, which really meant a lot to her. You can tell that she really loves him, so judging by the grandeur of this love, I’d say that as long as Hamlet does nothing of gigantic stupidity directly to Ophelia, the relationship will go on.
Friend’s come and go for diverse maters; but the real friends are always maintained close, no matter what. People do change depending on the circumstances of their lives, some come to consciousness and become better persons, while others leave behind their values and believe their superior. I have personally had a friend change dramatically, her life made a sudden twist. Her parent divorced and that really affected her, she could not tolerate seeing her parents fight all the time. At first it was hard, she was always depressed and nothing could be done. But as time passed she learned how to deal with it and started to value more her surroundings including me.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately Hamlet changed in another way; he is now acting like a total lunatic. Ofelia is going to need great patience to maintain her relationship. If she sets her mind and supports Hamlet on this devastating time , they can succeed and when all of this passes they would still be together.
Lourdes Loera
I did had a friend that changed dramatically due because she went to study outside the country and returned being someone else. She was once a very funny and understanding person when we where friends, but when she returned she returned more serious and according to her more like a woman when she clearly was not. She now became a total stranger and since then our friendship ended within a few months.
ReplyDeleteIn Hamlets case, I do think that there is a chance that they could return. The reason is because they are not simple friends, but they are more like lovers, and if they really wanted each other, then there should be a chance of keeping their relationship intact.
I do have a friend that changed dramatically. He used to hang out with us a lot, he was a close friend. But slowly, he started getting into this computer game, WOW that dramatically changed him. He would not go out on weekends to play the game. He played it all day, all week. Then he started going to Colima every weekend to play it there so we would not bother him. He even stopped talking to us through msn. He practically disappeared for a couple months. The he randomly appeared one day to hang out with us. It was pretty awkward but he is starting to hang out with us again. I don’t think we will remain friends, because I think he will keep on playing the game. Regarding Ophelia and Hamlet, I think it will be hard for them to keep their relationship due to the circumstances. But I think they will manage if Ophelia can support being in the situations that Hamlet puts her through.
ReplyDeleteNicolas Chemello
Ive Had a friend that changed dramatically during this year. At first, He was very athletic and he was doing great in school but then he meet the wrong people and he started to miss school and practices.He was doing so good in life. He was going streight to succes but now, i dont even know him anymore.I dont think ophelia can be with Hamlet due to his atitude. Right now Hamlet has alot on his mind and this will stop them from being together.
ReplyDeleteIvan Figueroa
i think there is always a need for change. There is always a reason or a motive to destroy a static phase in your life. However, these changes are not always too pleasant. Yes, i have had many friends change dramatically. For whatever the reason might have been, for the most part, i was able to tolerate and adapt to the change. I also noticed that the amount of my acceptance to the change depended a lot on the other person´s attutide toward the actual change. For example, if a friend decided to adopt an arrogant, self-centered attitude because he or she got a new boyfriend or girlfriend, well... i just decided not to deal with it. So my main point is that change is necessary cannot always lead people towards improvement or good.
ReplyDeleteAs for Ophelia, i really dont think she is going to be able to maintain a healthy, normal realtionship with Hamlet. Even if she does love him, and he really loves her. There´s just too much BS in between. Like for example, an annoying, selfish father like Polonious. And Hamlet´s thirst for revenge. So, I think Ophelia might get overwhelmed and tired by having to deal with so much drama in the royal palace.
Ale Ramirez
I have had a friend that has changed through time, but dramatically? No, he just changed a little bit. He moved to Mexico City and we stopped seeing each other for six months. As time passed, he decided to come to Guadalajara. At first, it was awkward, since we were best friends and we didnt talk for the first 30 minutes. After a while we talked and returned back to normal.
ReplyDeleteIn Hamlets case, I dont think that he will mantain his relationship with Ophelia, because they arent just friends, they are lovers. If Ophelia supports Hamlets during this difficult times, maybe they can preserve their relationship.
Abraham Showaki
I have had friends that changed in a drastic way. Some have changed for good and some changed in a complete opposite way. I can mantain a good, yet not close, realtionship with the people that have changed. I set limits when people change in a manner that I don`t really like, I prefer to mantain it as a good relationship, but not the way that we were before we both changed. I say both, because I can't say that I haven't changed in a drastic way, or else, I'll be lying. When I learn a lesson, when I lose a friend, when I experience something day by day, people change.
ReplyDeleteIn Ophelia's case, I don't think she is ready to mantain a relationship with Hamlet and see him as a good friend, because deep down in her, she still feels something for him. Seeing Hamlet have a sudden change in his personality probably hurt her. It is alright to have a relationship with any person as long as you are OK with it. From where I see this, I dont think that Ophelia is alright with herself in changing her feelings towards Hamlet (father's advice) and I dont think she is feeling pleased with the sudden change Hamlet has made.
Tamara Leon
i remember one friend i had that changed dramatically, i didnt realize when this happened because i was realizing that this individual was changing in every aspect, the way he talked, the way he treated people, and i really could not stand that. he then started getting along with people from other "areas" and starting talking behind our backs and inventing things that were not true. he also became a very big lier and i think i will not be friend of this guy again, maybe just a school friend, but not really close friend.
ReplyDeleteCarlos Perez
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